| October 14th, 2006 01:32 PM | |
 andreyG
Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 390 | movement in the pictures
I want to share some of my thoughts about the pictures and movement in 2D environment. First ROT - it enhances movement, makes the active environment, where you have anticipation of action, it means that if you want to enhance it you use ROT, it also means, that if yu want no movement - you dead centere it. Faces with piercing gaze (look on Rubence pictures) single object of interest pictures.
Diagonal placement - it gives significant sence of movement and it is derect proportional to achieving diagonal - I use this on the horisons, tilted horizon gives a spin to the picture and makes it move - try to tilt any of your picture - and you will se what I mean. If in a scenary picture you can make different movement in a ground and on the sky (tilting the horizon and looking for line of the movement in the clowds) - the effect is usually stunning. And about tilting horizon - look on Monna Liza of Leonardo - it is severely tilted, and, I assume, he knew what he is doing. |
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| October 16th, 2006 07:47 PM | |
LVE
Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 825 | Good Discussion
Since I know Andrey very well, I understand what he is trying to say, and he has a style he is comfortable with and very good at. It took me awhile to get it, and I now I would like to be able to do it. This is not for everybody, and we must realize this. Mary is at a very high level as
demonstrated by her reviews, Cheri is less experienced an active participant and trying to learn. The bottom line is simoly this:
THIS IS A WORKSHOP. WE ARE HERE TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER! |
| October 16th, 2006 08:41 PM | |
andreyG
Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 390 | Re: movement in the pictures
About tilted horizon, I agree that the picture should look straight but visualization of straight has different gradations, and you can see tilted horison much easier then change of straight front. Tilting horizon - changing a vanishing point and make the picture a bit more dinamic - look it by yourself - rotate the same picture 3-5 degree in both sides cut it straight and look on it - you have defferent feeling of movement on all the pictures. I never saw it is described somwhere and I could be wrong with this, but try to do it... And as a movement - I am telling about a feeling of movement from side to side.Look for Dali and Cezanne - Dali with magoriti of his work centered and straight horizons - looks as a stop moment things, slices written in the stone. You can not find horisontal straight lines in Cezann's works, they are full of motion, and all almost all) horisons are tilted. I can continue... Something like this was in works Of Vasily Kandinski, I did not understood him before, but it looks that I began to understood what he wanted to say.
About the portraits. 3/4 portraits are mostly centered if they want to make eye contacts vith the subject, and placed on the side if they want to tell the story. Eyes above the horizon is an absolute rule, can not see what RO3 is doing with it.
What I want to say that centering is not a plugue, but a method that can be used once in a while, and rules of 1/3 are not something that we need to follow blantly, and that changing the setting we can make different feeling of movement evoked by the picture. Thanks andrey |
| October 17th, 2006 12:53 PM | |
andreyG
Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 390 | HDR
http://www.ff00aa.com/en/space/2006/02/16/152204/ this is the best explanation of HDR that i found, I heard about it, but never did it, it looks like fun, give me coupla of monthes to try, and I'll be back. The pictures are amaising and my kind of pictures, thanks to show the directions. Bracketing - is something that I am doing, not knowing what is the name. if you have very contrast picture and shoot it as it is - it comes burned on the bright part and pitch dark on the dark sites. if you go down on 1-3 stops of the appertura it will be more equalised, you can just compensate for exposure in exposure tool, but it is better to recover the pick in shadow and highlights. Before PS - it was done by use of heavy ND filters, now it is easier. It is also helpfull to shoot with low color temperature (5000) and later recover colors by rising color temperature by going down on red and up on blue - it preserves colors of high contrast pictures. Majority of cameras give you a possibility of bracketing, but you can do it in manual mode, just going 1-2-3- stops below the recommended exposure. I hope it will be helpfull.
andrey
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| October 17th, 2006 07:21 PM | |
SJD
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 73 | ROT
Please tell me what ROT stands for, sorry I am a newbie. |
| October 17th, 2006 07:26 PM | |
SJD
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 73 | HDR
Ok, here I go again, what does HDR stand for. |
| October 17th, 2006 08:10 PM | |
andreyG
Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 390 | sorry
ROT rules of thirds, HDR - High Definition Resolution. |
| October 18th, 2006 05:33 PM | |
SJD
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 73 | ROT and HDR
Thanks Andrey, I will have to study up on HDR. Can I get more information on http://www.ff00aa.com/en/space/2006/02/16/152204? How do I use this is it a setting on the camera? Thanks so much for your feed back. |
| October 18th, 2006 11:59 PM | |
andreyG
Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 390 | HDR
I am new in HDR, just got several shots today, looks very promissing, you place you camera in bracketing mode with 3 defferent exposure picture (1 f stop down each) then you get CS2 PS and use file-authomatic - merge to HDR. It usually does not know what to do, go to browse and get your files. it merge it in a picture that looks ugly - I did try to watch it on HD TV - fantasticquec. then transfer it to JPG, when I did tif - my comp refuses to read it, the pictures are very promissing. Thanks Cheriperri for the tip.
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| October 19th, 2006 07:06 AM | |
andreyG
Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 390 | HDR
Yes on the page is a step by step instruction. You set you camera on bracketing mode with 1 f stop each for 3 picture. when you got it in CS2 you can convert it to HDR (file-authomatic-convert to HDR), as a result you have a strange picture, I looked it on HD TV - it is stunning, but quite ugly on the usual monitore, save it as it is, and safe it as JPG file, TIF that I stored on my computer - can not be opened by any of the program. Very interesting thing. Anybody has any experience? |
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