| November 28th, 2006 01:42 AM | |
 shellyabarnes
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 96 | Please tell me how this works : Copyright Issues
I thought that we are posting our own work here, and there is a line that breaches copyright concerns if we post a photo taken of someone else's artwork - 2nd Place Awarded to SJD's the Old Man giving thanks is taken of a poster titled "Daily Bread".
Editing included fraying the original border then placing the photo in a frame, but essentially it is still 100% Daily Bread , the poster is for sale in three sizes:
25 X 20cm, 51 X41 cm. and 71 X 56 cm at
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Daily-Bread-Posters_i412476_.htm
Let's not get caught up in any legal issues for breaching copyright in any way or form. We need to uphold the reputation of this site and all the members. |
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| November 28th, 2006 12:32 PM | |
LVE
Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827 | From The 10 Copyright Commandments
8. An artist’s rendering of a photograph in another medium is a derivative use of an image and does require the written permission of the copyright owner prior to use.
Now not being an expert, and I am seeking other advice, this would appear to be a derivate use in my opinion. I am waiting to speak with SJD by phone, and will get the details of the photo, and go from there.
Fair? |
| November 28th, 2006 02:57 PM | |
LVE
Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827 | Helen
I agree this should be discussed on the site. SJD will be posting shortly, and will explain this photo, where it came from, etc. There are several forum posts that deal with copyright issues. If you haven't read those, I would ask that you do and then we go for there. You can definetly take photos of statues, etc, and much of this is adressed in the forums. If you mark your photo as copyrighted, it is copyrighted. Here is the link to the 10 commandments. Copy and paste in your browser. http://www.pacaoffice.org/commandments.html
Certainly willing to continue discussion. I am not an expert on this, and Jacob has done more research than I. We all want to be protected both ways.
My best. |
| November 28th, 2006 03:51 PM | |
SJD
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 73 | To Address Your Concerns
I spoke with Larry and would like to address your concerns regarding my photo of the "Daily Bread." This is a small wooden plack 6 inches by 5 inches and the small picture was pasted on top of the small piece of wood. There is no frame around the picture, that is the back side of the wood plack and the fraying was original by whoever put this small plack together. It belonged to my husbands grandmother and was given to his mother and then to him. It hung in his grandmothers home many years and then in his mothers home for many years and now in ours. It is not a poster I bought off the internet and took a picture of. I will be happy to take another photo of it and put it on the site so you can see the real size. I took the plack off my kitchen wall, placed it on a chair by my office window and took a close up photo. The only editing I did was change the hue and saturation a bit because it is old and faided. I am sorry if I have offended anyone and I certainly don't want to be in violation of the 10 commandments. I would never do anything to hurt the reputation of this site and all the members.
With honest sincerity,
Skeeter Dahlen |
| November 28th, 2006 04:25 PM | |
shellyabarnes
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 96 | My concern was.......
Thanks Skeeter for your explanation, I think you have clarified so very much with your explanation.
My concern was triggered by the fact that we all hope photos from our members will be able to be sold from this site, and as "Daily Bread" is available for sale as posters, there may be a grey area of copyright issues raised.I too am very familiar with the image which is how I recognised it.
I did not want to detract from your piece of photography, you have done a superb job and you are to be congratulated for it!
Many thanks for replying so promptly,take care..... |
| November 28th, 2006 05:49 PM | |
LVE
Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827 | Thank you Skeeter
Wonderful explanation. Tell Jack I said you are a keeper! |
| November 28th, 2006 06:07 PM | |
SJD
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 73 | Thank you Guys
Shelly and Larry, Thank you for your kind reply, now I can go dry my eyes and go out to play again, ha, ha, just kidding. Love you guys, Skeeter |
| November 29th, 2006 09:37 AM | |
LVE
Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827 | Did You Know
If you use the most basic addition of ACD, when you download your files from the camera, at that instant you can apply a batch command that will put the Copyright information you have saved, on every photo. Technically, this only needs to included in the ITPC information and there is way to search the Internet to find if someone might be using your photo. Here is the process I use:
1. Download from camera automatically using ACD Device Detector which is part of the software. This automatically creates a dated folder, places the photos in that photo, and deletes the photos from the camera.
2. When download is complete, go to that folder and select all files
3. Go to command Batch Set Information
4. Select the saved Copyright information youu have entered.
5. Hit start, and in seconds this information is applied to all files. If you have 100 files, this takes less than 10 seconds.
I also want to recommend to those of you that are using basic editing programs that came with your camera, or those of you who want to start doing some basic editing that you download and try a trial of this program. I start evry edit I do with ACD, and you can crop, resize, and straighten plus many more features very easily. Our member price is $39 discounted from $43.50. Will be the best $39 you ever spent! Try it! |
| November 29th, 2006 11:13 AM | |
RhodyGirl
Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 214 | I'm Confused...
Having once managed a combination camera store/1 hour photo lab, I am well aware of the copyright laws, and can tell you stories about how many people tried to get us to break them by making copies of professional photographers' work without the photographers' written permission. (More times than not, the photo in question was the only photo the customer had of the subject of the photo, who had recently passed away.) In the case of copyrights on professional portrait photographs, there was a time frame during which the copyright was in effect - something like 50 years at most, meaning that photographs older than this time frame were exempt from the copyright law. I'm not sure that applies to fine art, but what I do wonder is that since there are already prints and posters of the painting "Daily Bread" does the copyright law actually apply? Judy |
| November 29th, 2006 11:19 AM | |
LVE
Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827 | Cheriperry
Sorry, but it is not a violation of copyright law! I am 100% certain of this. We have researched this and we stand by it! Please, lets move on! Thank you! |
| November 29th, 2006 02:54 PM | |
LVE
Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827 | Cheri Perry
Sorry, but you are not correct. This is not a copyright infringment. We have researched this, and have ruled on it! Please take my word and let's all get ready for the holidays. My best. |
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