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November 16th, 2006 10:14 AM 
  LVE

Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827
EXIF & Dimensioins Data

About 75% of those submitting their photos are providing this information. I do not know in the other 25% if this is available from their cameras.

The way I resize and optimize my shots, this information gets lost when I save the final upload version. Therefore, I have to enter it manually. Why we want to get this information, is that it is very helpful when making review comments and suggestions for improvement. There are a lot of stories to be told from this.

If I can be of any help, please let me know and I will give you my opinions and recommendations. If you have the information, and it is not uploading, we would appreciate your adding it manually. Thank you in advance.
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November 16th, 2006 11:57 AM 
  Birdlady

Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 176
Re: EXIF & Dimensioins Data

You can go back to the original photo and go to file properties. The data should be displayed. I right click on the photo and the information is there. At least it does in my software, and I'm sure most software will show that information. Nina
November 16th, 2006 12:58 PM 
  LVE

Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827
Nina,

That is the way it works with most editors. The original EXIF data is contained on the dowloaded file. If I work on this file I always say it is a Tif, or PSD or PPF and save the original the way it came off the camera. as a jpg. When I resize my final version for upload, I rename it and save as a jpg.

Upon completion, I have the version that came off the camera, unedited, the edited version with different name - the uploaded jpg version with the name used in APOW. If it is done this way, the and the camera dowloads the EXIF info with the original file, it will always be there.

One recomendation I would make to all. For better photo taking in the future, always look at the EXIF data and the Histogram in your editor after download from Camera. I ma teaching my wife, and this is now her bible, She says the shot is too light or dark, etc., I say look at this information and see if it tells you something. All of a sudded it starts to register. When I am shooting, I look at the HISTOGRAM, and EXIF information plus camera setup information AFTER EVERY SHOT! It is important! Contact me ifyou have questions.
November 16th, 2006 01:48 PM 
  pb

Joined: Sep 18, 2006
Posts: 126
1 obvious question....

this is just the thing I've been wanting to learn....I get the histogram, see it's lopsided (at times) but then.....WHAT DO I DO WITH THAT INFORMATION WHILE STILL SHOOTING?? Maybe this could be a mini-lesson in the Definitions forum (whatever it's called).
ALSO: could we perhaps fold these 2 discussion forums into 1? They seem to have become redundant and it takes extra time to flip from 1 to the other....I am running out of time to shoot, create and post.
November 16th, 2006 03:39 PM 
  andreyG

Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 391
histogram

What we can get from a histogram? I usually look on it as on an abstract picture - they look nice. Are there any practical things in histograms?
November 16th, 2006 08:04 PM 
  LVE

Joined: Aug 1, 2006
Posts: 827
To Andrey

A Histogram is a stake in the ground. Depending on the shot, I like to underexpose a bit and go from there, You know a lot more than I, but when I look at a photo with my my new camera, I can only see the histogram after the shot. It is not a bible, but a very good reference point that I feel helps me. I can show someone the advantages of using this, especially if they are starting out. I am sure you would agree with this.
November 17th, 2006 06:49 AM 
  andreyG

Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 391
lve

begin to understand, need to scratch my head a bit more. Thanks
November 19th, 2006 10:40 PM 
  andreyG

Joined: Sep 19, 2006
Posts: 391
Thanks Mishele

After some scratching of my head - it looks that LCD display is not the best information about you shot, and, if I have to have the shot without huge burned or black spots - I rather have nice looking histogram together with LCD picture. It makes a lot of sence. Thanks again.
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